Criminal Psychologist Dr. Christian Ludke talks about Kate and Gerry McCann

Interview with Criminal Psychologist Dr. Christian Ludke:

"Interviewer: You have since early on warned that behavior of Gerry and Kate McCann is pointing towards them being involved, what had made you feel that way?

Ludke: In the latest years I have often been in contact with parents who had lost their child due to a crime. They are under massive shock, were helpless, were insecure, withdrawing themselves. They have an inner struggle, blaming themselves for possibly not have looked enough after their child.

Interviewer: Was it different with the McCanns?

Ludke: They live completely different, often harmonic. Already after a few days they went jogging, as if that was a normal thing to do, they always came together. These parents took matters into their own hands instead of leaving matters in the hands of the police. They distanced themselves from their two other children by going on a European tour, that to me is very strange.

Interviewer: Maybe it was an accident?

Ludke: No. In such a case, after the first shock they would have trusted the police. Both parents are doctors, in case of an accident they would have tried to get help. It is even more unrealistic that of all people two doctors would leave 3 children alone in a strange environment, even more at night. I have many doctors as patients. As professionals they know all that can happen to children, and as parents they are overly protective.

Interviewer: What could have been the motive, to disappear their own daughter?

Ludke: There are parents who have little to no emotional binding with a child. Often such a child is considered a burden, that is treated in a brutal or perverse way. The most known is the Munchhausen-by proxy-Syndrome: The mother hurts the child until it is almost not alive anymore and then calls for the police because she herself has a huge wish for attention.

Interviewer: Do you think it is possible that Madeleine's parents have killed Madeleine together and hidden her?

Ludke: I believe both have perpetrator knowledge.

Interviewer: You mean, the McCanns have planned the death of their daughter?

Ludke: Yes, it is possible that they have planned the act for a long time, at least in must have been in their minds often and they must have spoken about it together. Otherwise they would now be contradicting each others.

Interviewer: When parents are guilty of killing their child, do they block that out of their minds?

Ludke: not likely. Both are very much conscious, give interviews, travel. It is for them easier to lie than to tell the truth.

One can rule out a psychoses. Many things are pointing towards mentally disturbed. The children of the McCanns were conceived artificially, that can lead to problems in parenthood. Maybe a lack of self esteem that is not often talked about. Maybe the child had to die for a problem that had been going on for many years.

Interviewer: But the McCanns seem perfect and loving parents.

Ludke: That image to the outside world can be due to a guilt mechanism when on a media campaign, and to distract from the real problem.

Interviewer: Why do they not go back to Great Britain?

Ludke: That also speaks against them, when someone looses a child they want to be with loved ones in a trusted surrounding. When they continue to stay on that resort, there were something terrible happened the worse that can happen to a parent, being loosing a child, that points towards a permanent survival instinct, images of what happened must pop up when being there. That the McCanns do not return home, where they also can have memories of happy times with their children can be a way out, to not be de-connected with what they have done.

Interviewer: The world thinks it is impossible that these parents can be guilty.

Ludke: the media are probably been taken on by the McCanns. Very soon they have been thinking of themselves instead of of the child. De parents were treated like the Beckhams. In his Internet diary the father writes almost daily about that and irrelevant/banal things, which shirt he was wearing, what the weather is like. That isn't a father that is worried. Statisticly 70 percent of all the violence against children is caused by the parents, family members or friends. That has unfortunately not been looked into. The Portuguese police was treated very unfairly when pointing towards that."

About Criminal Psychologist Dr. Christian Ludke:

1. Staatsexamen (Sek. II) in Erziehungswissenschaft,
kath. Theologie und Sport
Promotion zum Doktor der Philosophie in der Facherkombination
Erziehungswissenschaft, Soziologie und Sportmedizin

1989: New York / USA, Arbeit mit schwer erziehbaren Kindern- und Jugendlichen
1991-1999: Psychologische Ausbildung von Spezialeinheiten (SEK, MEK und VG)
bei der Fortbildungsstelle Spezialeinheiten der Polizei in NRW
1999-2001: Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter der Universit ln / Lehrstuhl Klinische Psychologie und Psychotherapie

2001-2007: Geschhrer der HumanProtect Consulting GmbH
Psychologische Akutintervention und Rehabilitation nach
(Bank-)Ãllen, Geiselnahmen, Unfllen, Katastrophen und
anderen belastenden Ereignissen
Interview copied from post on 3 Arguidos (page 23):
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Media Bias: KM versus GM
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Articles by Paulo Sargento - forensic psychiatrist, university professor and author

Here's an excellent analysis of media stories by 3 arguidos member 'honeybear', based entirely on her opinion but, nevertheless, very interesting:
From Page 26 Did Gerry McCann kill Madeleine and frame Kate?

In that interview:

GM did not realise that he was placing his need to demonstrate that he is a loving husband towards KM....over and above showing his concern for his missing his psyche in that moment he was giving himself a character reference..."I'm a nice loving person"...this was his priority.

Thus here he was thinking about how he looked in the media...not his daughter.

KM in the same interview did not care how she looked...indeed she looked a mess, full of anger, rage and hatred towards GM, and stupefied at events.

She was not interested or had an awareness of how she looked physically or more importantly how she came across in character....GM was very aware how his character was viewed.

Since then appearances had been very particular we have seen much hand holding....but none of the excesses that were viewed in this interview .... no doubt GM was told "it did not look good".....

In addition to this there has been a carefully orchestrated stream of stories about the McScams .....that were meant to enlighten us about this couple.

Bearing in mind there are a multitude of press injunctions and d notices about this case....each story must be analysed as to why it was written and what was it meant to achieve in the publics perspective of the case ..... whenever we heard a story about either KM or GM... it came from one source only ....that ever friendly McScam press release machine!!

So here we go:

We are informed GM answers his questions
KM looks very bad in this light as someone told her to keep quiet

We are informed that KM will be consulting Stella McCartny about clothes
KM seems totally self obssessed behaving as if celebrity is more important to her than the loss of her child.

We are informed GM saved a person life on a plane
He must be a great doctor / good person

GM has his wallet stolen
GM is a victim again

We learn KM has started a which she writes she wanted to kill Murat
KM is associated with killing

GM openly speaks of stories of KM killing MM in a rage in the Vanity Fair Interview
KM is associated with killing of MM

We are informed of Hot lips Healy
KM must be wild, sex crazed.

We are NOT informed of anything of GM past
GM must be good as he doesn't seem to have anything in his past

Pictures are released of KM made up with high lights as if she has posed for some professional studio
KM comes accross as concerned only with her image in the media

We are informed that MM questioned her mother only why she did not return from the restaurant the night before
KM is a wicked mother...doing the same so it seems the night afterwards

We are shown photos / vidoes of GM alwas having a happy time with MM
GM is a fun loving, kiddy adoring dad....always playing with the children.

We are informed that GM will be speaking for the couple
KM by being silent looks suspicious, GM looks together whilst KM looks as if she can only be controlled by silence

We are informed of Kates difficulty in handling the children
KM appears as if she cannot be in control

We are informed of Gerry looking at the last time at MM lying asleep and thinking how lucky he was
No such loving thoughts of KM's about MM are released to the media

We are informed of Kates is to be photographed in a swimsuit
KM appears completely doolaly

All of Gerry's relatives give him great character references
KM is not given this type of coverage...she must the unstable one

We are informed of GM's travels all over the world and meetings with important people
KM not associated with this type of "important" work....but associated by use of a photo to killing by the release of knife / birthday cake photo....contrast of characters

We are informed of KM wild temper tantrums in Portugal
KM must have very little restraint

We are informed by philo of a plea deal during Kate's interview
if such a deal was offered...KM must be the one who killed MM

Stories released into the Media by Team McScam.....who are meant to be representing both KM and GM.... say only positive things about GM and only negative things about KM.

KM would have had no control over their release....GM was handling it and CM putting the machine into action....KM was certainly being talked over by these two and used as their tool to feed a particular story into the media .

Now add to this all the interviews ....Team McScam would have encouraged KM to wear particular types of clothes, earings, have her hair / nails done....all this to reinforce the media stories about someone bessoted more about how she looks than her missing daughter.

And to this add the new behaviour that was to be exhibited on camera...that of GM holding her hand when on camera...GM was meant to look the level headed comforting type by these actions.

Appearance, media stories, silence....all cleverly assembled to create an approriately "strange and highly suspicious" impression of KM .

No wonder so many are convinced that KM did it.....Many of the stories are about her character....she was being set up by Team McScam....!